Comments on: No more personal domains in China just before Christmas 2009 http://yolearnchinese.com/archives/no-more-personal-domains-in-china-just-before-christmas-2009 Motivation and Strategies to learn Chinese for busy people Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:22:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Aremonus http://yolearnchinese.com/archives/no-more-personal-domains-in-china-just-before-christmas-2009/comment-page-1#comment-18243 Aremonus Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:59:20 +0000 http://yolearnchinese.com/?p=1146#comment-18243 Well if it remains, like nowadays, only a local problem (like China), it's easy to set up a VPN connection to some foreign countries. But in several wealthy nations are also some voices calling for censorship and it's a well-known secret that the USA are spying internet users with their Echelon system... that's what's getting me kinda worried and makes me call for a more anonym internet. Anyway, let's see what quantum computing brings. It already made the uncrackable encryption come into reality, so it's certainly a promising technology. Well if it remains, like nowadays, only a local problem (like China), it’s easy to set up a VPN connection to some foreign countries. But in several wealthy nations are also some voices calling for censorship and it’s a well-known secret that the USA are spying internet users with their Echelon system… that’s what’s getting me kinda worried and makes me call for a more anonym internet.

Anyway, let’s see what quantum computing brings. It already made the uncrackable encryption come into reality, so it’s certainly a promising technology.

]]> By: Hendrik http://yolearnchinese.com/archives/no-more-personal-domains-in-china-just-before-christmas-2009/comment-page-1#comment-18221 Hendrik Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:18:11 +0000 http://yolearnchinese.com/?p=1146#comment-18221 I just tried to find satellite internet and found several companies. One example: Tooway offers full satellite internet (down and upload both through satellite) for 60 Euro per month. Initial set up and hardware fee is 500 Euro. Download rate: 3584 kbits/s, Upload rate 384 kbits/s. They only cover Europe, but other companies cover other parts of the world. I couldn't find a company that covers China. I just tried to find satellite internet and found several companies.

One example: Tooway offers full satellite internet (down and upload both through satellite) for 60 Euro per month. Initial set up and hardware fee is 500 Euro. Download rate: 3584 kbits/s, Upload rate 384 kbits/s. They only cover Europe, but other companies cover other parts of the world. I couldn’t find a company that covers China.

]]> By: Aremonus http://yolearnchinese.com/archives/no-more-personal-domains-in-china-just-before-christmas-2009/comment-page-1#comment-18207 Aremonus Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:23:24 +0000 http://yolearnchinese.com/?p=1146#comment-18207 I generally admire the developpers of TCP/IP, but just wanted to point out it's weaknesses. The Mesh network is exactly what I've programmed... but when such a network growth (>100 peers), it gets really slow, as data starts circulating, not arriving where it should as fast as if there are some static routes (so it eats up a lot of router capacity - we've only dealed with kind of old routers, but we've also had rather small networks. So I think on a global scale, this might be an issue again...) I therefore don't think mesh networks can replace backbones. I don't know but I guess Sattelites can't route as fast as ground routers, as the transistors on their chips can't be as small as here on earth, due to cosmic radiation (I've heard ISS and Space shuttles use 80386 CPUs, Hubble 80486... they're older than the first Pentium (80586) chip) However, the idea is tempting... I don't want any government tracking my internet activities. I generally admire the developpers of TCP/IP, but just wanted to point out it’s weaknesses. The Mesh network is exactly what I’ve programmed… but when such a network growth (>100 peers), it gets really slow, as data starts circulating, not arriving where it should as fast as if there are some static routes (so it eats up a lot of router capacity – we’ve only dealed with kind of old routers, but we’ve also had rather small networks. So I think on a global scale, this might be an issue again…) I therefore don’t think mesh networks can replace backbones.

I don’t know but I guess Sattelites can’t route as fast as ground routers, as the transistors on their chips can’t be as small as here on earth, due to cosmic radiation (I’ve heard ISS and Space shuttles use 80386 CPUs, Hubble 80486… they’re older than the first Pentium (80586) chip)
However, the idea is tempting… I don’t want any government tracking my internet activities.

]]> By: Hendrik http://yolearnchinese.com/archives/no-more-personal-domains-in-china-just-before-christmas-2009/comment-page-1#comment-18153 Hendrik Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:56:46 +0000 http://yolearnchinese.com/?p=1146#comment-18153 Sure, they can register a .de.vu or a .com domain, however they won't rank as well in a Chinese search engine as local domains are preferred (This is a artifical setting, not a technical. This means: those who programmed baidu said, they want to prefer .cn in their results, for whatever reasons) The other thing is, if someone wants to set up a website, he has to put it on some webspace and this webspace does have a domain. It might be possible, that Chinese webspace providers only allow .cn domains. I'm not sure, you have to research if You really want to know that. If that is the case, no individual can register webspace, because he cannot register a .cn domain. Keep in mind a webspace is dependant on a domain. The last alternative would be to set up a webspace outside of China. China couldn't do anything about it, however it would rank bad in Chinese search engines, and when people from inside China try to access it, it might be slow. Before You rant about TCP/IP, please read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcp/ip also check out the OSI model for better understanding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model TCP/IP serves us well. Maybe a mesh network could help to get around the censors? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_network I guess one of the key problems is, that network traffic must be bundled at certain points and these points are always vulnerable. Here is my idea: The UN (or some other trustable organization) launch a bunch of satellites, covering the whole globe. They provide a satellite based internet. Everyone with a dish on the roof can parttake. However the government could still ban satellite dishes... Let's wait for the quantum engeneers to find a good solution. Sure, they can register a .de.vu or a .com domain, however they won’t rank as well in a Chinese search engine as local domains are preferred (This is a artifical setting, not a technical. This means: those who programmed baidu said, they want to prefer .cn in their results, for whatever reasons)

The other thing is, if someone wants to set up a website, he has to put it on some webspace and this webspace does have a domain. It might be possible, that Chinese webspace providers only allow .cn domains. I’m not sure, you have to research if You really want to know that. If that is the case, no individual can register webspace, because he cannot register a .cn domain. Keep in mind a webspace is dependant on a domain.

The last alternative would be to set up a webspace outside of China. China couldn’t do anything about it, however it would rank bad in Chinese search engines, and when people from inside China try to access it, it might be slow.

Before You rant about TCP/IP, please read about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcp/ip
also check out the OSI model for better understanding:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model

TCP/IP serves us well. Maybe a mesh network could help to get around the censors?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_network

I guess one of the key problems is, that network traffic must be bundled at certain points and these points are always vulnerable.

Here is my idea:
The UN (or some other trustable organization) launch a bunch of satellites, covering the whole globe. They provide a satellite based internet. Everyone with a dish on the roof can parttake. However the government could still ban satellite dishes… Let’s wait for the quantum engeneers to find a good solution.

]]> By: Aremonus http://yolearnchinese.com/archives/no-more-personal-domains-in-china-just-before-christmas-2009/comment-page-1#comment-18152 Aremonus Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:54:05 +0000 http://yolearnchinese.com/?p=1146#comment-18152 It's time to get rid of the good old TCP/IP with DNS-Servers and find a more dynamic, less trackable system... Anyway, I don't have a suggestion for one either and I wonder wether it is possible, after all. I only once tried to programm one with some friends of mine, it worked quite well, but when it grows a little and there are too many changes in the net, it ultimately crashes -.- Hope someday, there'll be a genius that can find an algorithm to solve the censorship problem. However, I know a guy who owns a .cn-domain and his site can be still accessed. What if Chinese just register a foreign domain, maybe even a free one, such as .de.vu? It’s time to get rid of the good old TCP/IP with DNS-Servers and find a more dynamic, less trackable system…
Anyway, I don’t have a suggestion for one either and I wonder wether it is possible, after all. I only once tried to programm one with some friends of mine, it worked quite well, but when it grows a little and there are too many changes in the net, it ultimately crashes -.-
Hope someday, there’ll be a genius that can find an algorithm to solve the censorship problem.

However, I know a guy who owns a .cn-domain and his site can be still accessed. What if Chinese just register a foreign domain, maybe even a free one, such as .de.vu?

]]> By: Hendrik http://yolearnchinese.com/archives/no-more-personal-domains-in-china-just-before-christmas-2009/comment-page-1#comment-18143 Hendrik Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:17:43 +0000 http://yolearnchinese.com/?p=1146#comment-18143 The virtual world is the only world, that allows the masses of people to act against a strict government. The virtual world is the only world, that allows the masses of people to act against a strict government.

]]> By: MKL http://yolearnchinese.com/archives/no-more-personal-domains-in-china-just-before-christmas-2009/comment-page-1#comment-18099 MKL Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:08:10 +0000 http://yolearnchinese.com/?p=1146#comment-18099 Very well said. It's a pity for the Chinese citizens not to enjoy these freedoms, even if it's just a virtual world. Very well said. It’s a pity for the Chinese citizens not to enjoy these freedoms, even if it’s just a virtual world.

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